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Sound problem with Series 1
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| willie |
Posted on 16-07-2010 16:42
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Hi,
sorry for my bad english.
I have a problem with my status S1. It's a 5 String S1 from around '95.
Lately i found that the sound of the bass is missing more and more low frequencies. This loss of bass is going on so slowly, that i can't imagine when it begins.
I have checked and double checked all other parts like batteries, cable, strings and so on.
I just adjust the neck, because the space between neck and strings (When pressing in 1 and last fret) was about 3mm.
Have you any other idea, what i can check?
How big is normally the space between strings and pickups?
bye
Willie
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| Danny |
Posted on 16-07-2010 18:27
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The space between pickups and strings is very much down to individual preference. My 5 string S2 is around 6mm neck and about 3-4 on the bridge. I mostly play on the back pick up and like a tight sound and feel but have the option for the neck pick up for a rounder sound.
As for you gradually loosing bottom end, not really sure if it all looks good, when the batteries go they tend to fuzz up the sound and distort a bit.
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| osprey |
Posted on 17-07-2010 10:49
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I'm assuming you are concerned about balance between the strings rather than general quality of tone? If it's overall tone it might be that one of the pots is faulty: either you are just getting the bridge pup, or the pot which controls the treble is only giving you the "bright" end.
If it's balance it would certainly be worthwhile moving the bass end of the pickup nearer to the strings. The bigger strings vibrate in a bigger arc, so the pickups on some basses (including my Status) are further from them anyway. It's possible the adjusting screws on the soapbars are slack and the pickup has moved away a bit. You could try one pickup first. So long as the strings aren't hitting it you're ok, but it might do other things to the tone.
Is the problem the same with one or the other pickup right off?
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| willie |
Posted on 19-07-2010 16:15
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osprey wrote:
I'm assuming you are concerned about balance between the strings rather than general quality of tone? If it's overall tone it might be that one of the pots is faulty: either you are just getting the bridge pup, or the pot which controls the treble is only giving you the "bright" end.
If it's balance it would certainly be worthwhile moving the bass end of the pickup nearer to the strings. The bigger strings vibrate in a bigger arc, so the pickups on some basses (including my Status) are further from them anyway. It's possible the adjusting screws on the soapbars are slack and the pickup has moved away a bit. You could try one pickup first. So long as the strings aren't hitting it you're ok, but it might do other things to the tone.
Is the problem the same with one or the other pickup right off?
The pot's are working fine. Only the volume pot is doing some crackle, but it's ok.
6mm ??? Hmm my pickups are 15mm (Neck) and 10 mm (Bridge) away, but i can't adjust them right, because the pickups don't get any closer. Only the screws go out. I think the rubber on the backside of the pickups is too old.
And yes, the problem is with both pickups. I'll try to get new foam rubber for the pickups.
bye
Willie
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| Rob Green |
Posted on 22-07-2010 20:33
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Hi Willie,
If there is 3mm between the strings and the frets, it sounds like there is also too much forward bow in the neck.
I suggest you try to straighten the neck with the truss-rod first... there should only be about a 0.5mm gap.
This will help make the strings a little closer to the pickups. Don't force the truss-rod too much. If there is a problem with the neck and the truss-rod breaks this will be an expensive problem...
I normally set the pickups about 3 / 5mm from the strings. This will help the low frequencies and the overall output.
I hope this helps.
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| Silent Fly |
Posted on 22-07-2010 21:05
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I can also be due to some capacitors (the out capacitor is a likely candidate) that are at the end of their life.
I don't have the schematic or the circuit board layout but it should be easy to fix.
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| willie |
Posted on 01-08-2010 18:06
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Silent Fly wrote:
I can also be due to some capacitors (the out capacitor is a likely candidate) that are at the end of their life.
I don't have the schematic or the circuit board layout but it should be easy to fix.
I will change them, have anybody the schematics of the preamp?
Or can me tell, where to find it?
bye
Willie
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| willie |
Posted on 19-08-2010 10:13
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I have reengineered the preamp.
I have seen, that the pickup's are not active. Is this right?
If so, can i use them without the preamp (just by soldering a jack), so that i can test, if theres a problem in the preamp or with the bass itself?
bye
Willie
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| Fat Rich |
Posted on 19-08-2010 10:39
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Should be OK, take the output from the volume pot, probably the centre of the three pins although my old Energy was the end pin that wasn't earthed back to the body of the pot. Connect it straight to the jack and disconnect the output from the preamp and that'll tell you if there's a problem with the pickups.
If it's still not right then maybe there could be a bad solder joint somewhere, but I suspect it's going to prove to be a fault in the preamp. |
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| willie |
Posted on 23-08-2010 12:23
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Problem solved!
I have soldered a jack directly to the output of the pickup and there was the bass back.
So i tested the frequency response of the elektronik with my scope and found the the bass frequencies are cutted. So i changed the last cupplings electrolytic capacitor with a new one (with 10uF, ori. 4,7uF) and i changed the input capacitor from 6n8F to 22nF (bacause i have them at hand) and now everything work's fine...
Thank you for all your hints.
bye
Willie
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| Fat Rich |
Posted on 23-08-2010 12:50
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Good bit of repair work!
Congratulations on fixing your bass  |
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