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Posted by moo on 10-10-2011 12:40

Unfortunately not many people can answer this question but the lucky ones who have a newer KB or S2 AND an older Series II or 2000 will know there is a big difference in the string height from the body. For me this really has an effect on my playing as my finger gets 'lost' a bit under the G string when slapping! So, anyone else have experience of this and prefer the 'old way'?

Posted by enzo on 10-10-2011 13:17

I noticed also the same thing on my ex KB, I wasn't happy with the height of the strings. The getting 'lost' kind of sensation describes it perfectly, so I'm definitely for the old SII string position. My Alembic is the same, nice and low, I love it!

Posted by moo on 10-10-2011 14:27

Brilliant to hear. I told Rob about this a while back but he didn't seem very interested however, if I can show him a bunch of people who have the same feeling then it might encourage him to create a solution! It's actually one of the reasons I've opted for a couple of old basses instead of a new order from him! God I would love a KB Mk II with that lower string height. That would be amazing!!

Edited by moo on 25-04-2024 11:57

Posted by moo on 10-10-2011 14:29

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iEnzo wrote: I noticed also the same thing on my ex KB, I wasn't happy with the height of the strings. The getting 'lost' kind of sensation describes it perfectly, so I'm definitely for the old SII string position. My Alembic is the same, nice and low, I love it!

Yes Enzo exactly, the Alembo is perfect!!

Posted by moo on 10-10-2011 15:02

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Me4Bass wrote: So, Twas Once Moo, Curious when you may be parting ways with a particular Empathy-5 then?

The Empathy 5 has the low string height that I love! I can't see her leaving the fold unless there is a dramatic downward change in temperature in Lucifer's home!!

Sorry old boy. You need to hope that my long run of 'not getting girls pregnant' suddenly finishes and I have to start feeding another mouth!!

Posted by stenobass on 10-10-2011 21:34

Interesting Poll! Owning both models I can not confirm the 10mm string height to be better or worse. I must say both my modern Kingbasses play excellent and have a superb feel. The old Series II plays equally well so there is no big difference for me. I must say that the 32" scale with BW and the 16.5mm string spacing is real plus on my KB 4, that makes my playing easier.

Posted by paul clifton on 10-10-2011 23:03

I prefer the old way - I like fretboard to be fairly flush to the body rather than raised. Although this sometimes leads to blisters on the first knuckle, I like the tight feeling

Edited by paul clifton on 25-04-2024 11:57

Posted by bassbus on 10-10-2011 23:13

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Actually quite a noticable difference. This brings to mind the reason Gary Willis put the 'ramp' on his basses. Perhaps a shim of appropriate wood between the neck and front pickup might be a solution. Just on a quick try between my S2000 and S2, I do like the lower height of the S2000. I don't slap though but if I did that's what I would like.

Posted by enzo on 11-10-2011 02:09

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iMoo wrote: I told Rob about this a while back but he didn't seem very interested...

Did he give you a reason why he's building this way, does that improve something from his point of view?

Posted by enzo on 11-10-2011 02:18

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iMoo wrote: I'm just noting this day in my diary for all of mankind to know... This was the day Todd had NO opinion! The horror!!

We must be getting close to the Maya predictions

Posted by moo on 11-10-2011 02:26

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iEnzo wrote:
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iMoo wrote: I told Rob about this a while back but he didn't seem very interested...
Did he give you a reason why he's building this way, does that improve something from his point of view?

He didn't say. I would imagine a certain famous bass player's fingers have got fatter and, well, we'll leave it there shall we!!

Posted by moo on 11-10-2011 02:26

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iEnzo wrote:
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iMoo wrote: I'm just noting this day in my diary for all of mankind to know... This was the day Todd had NO opinion! The horror!!
We must be getting close to the Maya predictions

Posted by Angry-Canuck on 11-10-2011 03:57

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Judging by the response, this is something Rob should look into. Maybe an optional arch for the body to bring it closer to the strings or something similar. I suspect that with the modern design of neck, joining to the body etc puts the fretboard up that much higher. But another factor would be incorporating the present day monorail bridges to accommodate the height difference as well...... Probably a lot more engineering and development required than it seems initially. Making the whole body thicker would create balance and weight issues. If you think about it, unless you just slap on a slab of something (which would probably look like shit), its a complete redesign.

Posted by Angry-Canuck on 11-10-2011 04:00

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iMoo wrote: I would imagine a certain famous bass player's fingers have got fatter and, well, we'll leave it there shall we!!

I am NOT famous!!!!

Posted by Angry-Canuck on 11-10-2011 04:05

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iEnzo wrote:
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iMoo wrote: I'm just noting this day in my diary for all of mankind to know... This was the day Todd had NO opinion! The horror!!
We must be getting close to the Maya predictions

Hmmm, maybe I need to see a doctor.......there is a new Japanese doctor in my area, perhaps she can give me a proper examination.

Posted by moo on 11-10-2011 05:49

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iTodd wrote: Judging by the response, this is something Rob should look into. Maybe an optional arch for the body to bring it closer to the strings or something similar. I suspect that with the modern design of neck, joining to the body etc puts the fretboard up that much higher. But another factor would be incorporating the present day monorail bridges to accommodate the height difference as well...... Probably a lot more engineering and development required than it seems initially. Making the whole body thicker would create balance and weight issues. If you think about it, unless you just slap on a slab of something (which would probably look like shit), its a complete redesign.

Actually I have a very simple solution! But that's why I'm a genius and you need someone to help you tie your shoe laces in the morning! "No Todd... Our shoes don't go on our winkle do they!!!"

Mind you... good effort for getting a pair of size 11 shoes on the old man!! Way to go fella!!

Edited by moo on 25-04-2024 11:57